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 Post subject: Nano X Data
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:47 am 
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Hi,

I am from the UK and have just purchased the NANO-X in the 24 and 40 pin versions but i am unable to download the data sheet for them from the basic micro web site, when i go to the section for the Nano X and click on download data it just takes me to some other page and i get no chance to download anything, the small sheet that came with the Nano chips direct me to go to the basic mictor web site to download this data, what am i doing wrong , if there a section where i can download this data for NANO-X chips or can someone email me the required data,

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 Post subject: Re: Nano X Data
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:18 pm 
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LMAO! :D They changed the "Atom Interpreter IC" to "BasicNano X ##" and toss out the old data sheets! Then they direct everyone to an info-free page while (hopefully) writing decent data sheets for the 28-pin and 40-pin X chip.
(*sigh*)
Look, the processors are largely the same. The 28-pin PICs are PIC16F886s and the 40-pin chips are PIC16F887s. The main differences that come to mind are:
1. The Nanos use internal 8MHz clocks, while the X chips use external 20MHz crystals or resonators. The crystals need 18 to 22 pF caps to ground, the resonators have them built in. For this reason, the X chips run 2.5x faster than the 8MHz Nanos. Thus, PWM, PULSIN, serial ports, etc., all run 2.5x faster.
2. Because of the need for two pins to use an external clock device, the X chips lack a P32 and P33 I/O pin, which the Nanos have.

I supply two PDF sheets here for the old interpreter ICs here. You'll see the pinouts are largely the same between the parts. The interpreter sheets have a better description of how to make a MAX232 RS232 level-shifter IC work with these PICs. Both chips use the single-pin programming/serial comms system.
Have a nice project.
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 Post subject: Re: Nano X Data
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:04 am 
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Thanks for that,

My understanding on this is now much better

Dave. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Nano X Data
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:06 am 
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The Nano-X chips are the old interpreter chips/Atom Chips. The naming change was to consolidate the line. We are trying to move to Nano/AtomPro and deprecate the Atom line except for legacy apps. The Atom interpreter datasheets are being updated. Kens info is correct. The pinouts only differe between Nano and Nano-X where the resonator/crystal connects. If you use a 20mhz resonator you don't need the caps (since the resonator will have them built in). So Nano-X chips have 2 less I/Os than Nano chips but run 2.5x faster. Also for the moment the Nano-X chips will still come up as Atom CHIPs when you use Find in Studio. This will be updated in the next release or so.

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 Post subject: Re: Nano X Data
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:41 am 
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Thanks Nathan!

You've answered my Nano 40X question from the other thread. I can wait a little for a rev of Studio to allow selecting the 40X.

Do you have access to the dimensions (board and mounting holes) of the Nano Development board? (also asked on other thread).

And thanks Ken, more info!

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 Post subject: Re: Nano X Data
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:57 am 
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Until then you can manually select the Atom40 module or leave it on Auto.

Nano Dev board mounting holes as measured are 2.8" by 4".

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 Post subject: Re: Nano X Data
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:04 pm 
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Thanks Nathan!

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